Forum

We’ve moved our discussions to Discord! Join us there! https://discord.gg/HwkZFH5

Foolishbricks - Cri...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Foolishbricks - Critique my picture!


Foolish Bricks
Posts: 242
Core Team
Topic starter
(@foolish-bricks)
Joined: 2 years ago

Everybody creates photos that they themselves love while the rest of the world goes "mwoah". On the other hand we all create images we ourselves think of as "mwoah" and the world goes "Wow!". Sometimes, I have an image that I think of as "WOW!"... and the world seems to agree (those are the best ????).

But then there is that last category.... You want to create, but you are stressed out, can not find the creativity, inspiration and time to create something to be proud of. An image with a not-so-good-premise and/ or based on a half-baked idea... In the end you just can't pull all elements together and (of course) the world seems to agree.

Like the image below; I have to say it was a rushed image, contrived under pressure and it shows. I feel the idea is there somewhere, but the execution leaves a lot to wish for. I have thoughts on how to improve... but I wonder what your advices would be.

So there we are; let me have it people! ???? 

 

1558440681-Black-flower.jpg
16 Replies
Maëlick
Posts: 38
(@reiterlied)
Joined: 3 years ago

I like the light and overall color tones but I struggle with the composition. I think there are many elements and it's hard to figure out how to read the photo and understand what's important. My eyes are first drawn to the figure and the white flower in focus, then follow to the left with the out of focus white flowers to the ruins. Then back to the yellow skin of the elf. I'm left wondering what are the ruins and what does the elf wants or is supposed to do. I also find that the cropped green plant on the left is a distraction that doesn't add anything to the photo (besides being a distracting element).

What are the ruins supposed to be and are they particularly important? To me, it seems the main points of interest are the two figures, yet they are both very close to the right edge. In particular the elf. Because I fail to understand how the ruins are connected to the story, the photo feels very unbalanced.

Reply
3 Replies
Foolish Bricks
Core Team
(@foolish-bricks)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 242

Thank you for your feedback Maelick! 

Now that you mention it, I see it too. Sounds like a classic case of "less is more". Funny thing is that what you're seeing is part of the struggle I had with this image. It all started with Dwaas (the monster) and the two flowers (beauty and the beast) in a forest-environment. I added the white flowers to the image to emphasize that the black flower was a special one. But then the trouble started.

I was not happy with the image and I started adding elements; ruins to get some contrasts in there, red flowers, a bird and a rat (just for the heck of it)... and finally the Elf (as a connection to the first photo i posted begin this month)... It's just far too much! 

Funny thing is that this is what i warned people about in my own tips on storytelling and contrasting elements... don't overdo it ????

Thanks again, very insightful ! ????  

Reply
Maëlick
(@reiterlied)
Joined: 3 years ago

Posts: 38

Oh yeah, there's a black flower too 😀

I saw it but somehow I completely forgot about it while writing my comment. I guess it's also another thing making the image difficult to read. I think the white flowers are really stealing all the attention in a quite dark photo 😀

Reply
Foolish Bricks
Core Team
(@foolish-bricks)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 242

Now that really makes your point stick.... The black flower is part of the central message. I don't mind you not seeing it at first... first looking at the white flowers and then suddenly noticing a black one. Yet, missing the black one all together really spells failed composition ???? Thanks! ???? 

Reply
Marco Zanconi
Posts: 126
Core Team
(@the_aphol)
Joined: 2 years ago

That's a nice image to comment, i will start with what my eyes are telling me.

My attention is drawn by the light spot in the middle, then my eyes goes to the flower in focus, then on the subject and finally on the flowers in the foreground.

I've totally missed the elf in the background.

Not knowing exactly what your message was, i will clear a bit the picture, removing both the plant and the elf, darkening the light spot and also removing the branches on the ruins which are also distracting me.

If the message was "the beauty and the beast" to me is enough the uncertain expression on Dwaas face while looking the black flower (obviously the beauty) and the flower

Reply
1 Reply
Foolish Bricks
Core Team
(@foolish-bricks)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 242

Thank you for your welcome comments Marco! I actually enjoy having an image critiqued ????

I like reading how the eyes move through the image, very insightful again indeed.

The distracting branches on the ruins I actually noticed myself in post-production.... but I was too lazy to do anything about it; thanks for reminding me NOT to be lazy ????. Your comment and Maelicks' one seem to come down to focussing and not adding TOO MUCH distracting elements.

P.S The fact that you did not notice the Elf at first is something I am pleased about. I like images that tell me something new on subsequent viewings. However, in this image noticing the Elf doesn't add to the message, but only distracts, so that is something to keep in mind!

Reply
Short and Plastic
Posts: 43
(@shortandplastic)
Joined: 2 years ago

To my eyes, there's just a bit too much going on - my eye is drawn all over when it really wants to focus just on Dwaas and the flowers he's holding.  As Marco already said, that encapsulates "beauty and the beast" wonderfully. I missed the elf entirely. as well. And I might like the light a tiny bit warmer. All of which is a long-winded way to say I think it's a beautiful shot that's just *this close* to utterly amazing! 

Reply
2 Replies
Foolish Bricks
Core Team
(@foolish-bricks)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 242

Thank you very much for your feedback! 

I'm happy to hear that most of the critique comes down to focus.

Your mention of the light is a remark that hits the core of what irritated myself creating this image. Can you believe that I planned a rather bright image. However, for some reason, I have great difficulties creating bright images which also convey some kind of atmosphere. 

Reply
Short and Plastic
(@shortandplastic)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 43

Lighting can be a huge pain, especially when you want a particular atmosphere or mood. I know it's been my nemesis more often than I care to admit.

 

Reply
Four Bricks Tall
Posts: 577
(@fourbrickstall)
Joined: 3 years ago

Similar to what the others have said, I think the image would look nicer without the left third.

I, too, missed the elf.

I would've liked to see more focus on the black rose. Perhaps light shining on that or framed better so it's not against Dwaas's chest?

But I like the mood and the concept!

Reply
2 Replies
Foolish Bricks
Core Team
(@foolish-bricks)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 242

Thank you Anna! 

It's astonishing to me that so many people missed the elf. I realise this has to do with the biggest 'fault' in this image (lack of focus), yet, on the other hand this is something I can use for future images because, as i mentioned before in this thread, i like images that give new insights, or reveal something new upon subsequent viewings.

Thanks for your feedback! At first it felt scary posting in this topic, however, i really disliked this image and i couldn't figure out why. As a result I added to the problem, losing more and more focus in the image besides fruitlessly trying to correct things in postproduction that really didn't need correcting. 

I actually like this image now, because of the insights this thread gave me. Everybody, including myself, is always talking about focus and distractions.... but now I'm experiencing first hand how i lost focus in an image which was based on a really focussed idea. An eye-opener for sure.

Reply
Marco Zanconi
Core Team
(@the_aphol)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 126

I think that my eye missed the elf because there is a bush in the front and the yellow skin plus the medium-flesh hair are slightly merging with the background.

For sure with a second, deep look i can catch all the details, but with a first, Instagram look, i've missed it.

Reply
Foolish Bricks
Posts: 242
Core Team
Topic starter
(@foolish-bricks)
Joined: 2 years ago

Ok! Thank you everybody for your feedback!

Let's see if I learned anything form this; I created a new image, using the critiques offered. 

 

1558693065-Black-flower_new.jpg
Reply
3 Replies
Marco Zanconi
Core Team
(@the_aphol)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 126

This works better! I can even see the bird (after the face, the black flower and the white flower)

Reply
Four Bricks Tall
(@fourbrickstall)
Joined: 3 years ago

Posts: 577

Agree! I also like how the light is directed toward Dwaas.

If I had to nitpick, I'd probably get rid of that tree behind him though so he can stand out more.

Reply
Short and Plastic
(@shortandplastic)
Joined: 2 years ago

Posts: 43

Oh yeah! Really directs the eye right to Dwaas' face and the flowers!! 

Reply
Share: