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b.a.d.lego
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This picture was first inspired but the #BC_Mashup hashtag from July but time got away from me and to be honest, I wasn’t 100% sure how to achieve the photo I was looking to create.

The reason for my uncertainty was because I was attempting a skill I'd never attempted before and had only heard of a couple of months ago when I was listening to a toy photography podcast featuring @AlanRappa who had used a very old technique called #PeppersGhost. A little research led me to see how this has been used in theatre to create the illusion of ghosts. This led to me come up with a mashup idea of a Star Wars force ghost spooking out the Scooby gang.

Fast forward a few weeks (after visualising the picture in my head) and although July’s challenge had gone, a BTS challenge appeared on my feed and I knew the timing was right. My pictures  are a mix of weeks of mental planning or a few minutes. This was the former.

This weekend I had everything I thought I needed. Lego figures, background/scenery, camera, lighting and a piece of glass to create the ghost image.

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b.a.d.lego
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Posted by: @b-a-d-lego

This picture was first inspired but the #BC_Mashup hashtag from July but time got away from me and to be honest, I wasn’t 100% sure how to achieve the photo I was looking to create.

The reason for my uncertainty was because I was attempting a skill I'd never attempted before and had only heard of a couple of months ago when I was listening to a toy photography podcast featuring @AlanRappa who had used a very old technique called #PeppersGhost. A little research led me to see how this has been used in theatre to create the illusion of ghosts. This led to me come up with a mashup idea of a Star Wars force ghost spooking out the Scooby gang.

Fast forward a few weeks (after visualising the picture in my head) and although July’s challenge had gone, a BTS challenge appeared on my feed and I knew the timing was right. My pictures  are a mix of weeks of mental planning or a few minutes. This was the former.

This weekend I had everything I thought I needed. Lego figures, background/scenery, camera, lighting and a piece of glass to create the ghost image.

 
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b.a.d.lego
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Now with the set up photo the right way up. No idea why it posted upside down and not really a clue how to post to forums to be honest! 

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b.a.d.lego
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The glass didn’t work out and I had to find a thin piece of clear plastic to reflect the ghost onto. I also had to experiment with the light as I don't own lots of lights or torches and needed a narrow beam of light to bring out the ghost Yoda.

Pictures like this can be a lot of trial and error. Sometimes this is frustrating but other times you discover something that works well and you can squirrel the technique away for use again later.

 

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b.a.d.lego
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There were lots of attempts and lots of trial and error to get a picture I was happy with (on my Nikon D5200's screen at least) and after experimenting with increasing my f-stop number and manually adjusting the shutter speed to control exposure I think I have a half decent picture to edit.

there were a couple of angles I tried with the beam of light. For Pepper’s ghost to work well the “ghost” or Yoda needs to be well illuminated and the background around the figure should be dark. That’s why I put the scene in a box to try and avoid reflecting other objects and me in the angled plastic.

There were lots of attempts!

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b.a.d.lego
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Even when I thought I had the picture I wanted, I made the mistake of dismantling the set up before checking I was happy with the final result which means that although not terrible, my picture needs tweaks. As a bonus I would like to re-attempt this type of shot/effect and might come up with something for Halloween.

Top tip: Dont pack your picture away before checking you have the shot. 

Finally, I used some free photoshop apps (lightroom and photoshop fix) to tweak and paint my picture. This helped with Yoda’s force ghost glow.

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FreeTheGeekMan
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I had never heard of "peppers ghost" thanks for sharing. This has just moved to the top of my things to try list!

Also it looks like both our BTS posts today have been at least partially inspired by @alanrappa, I hope this doesnt go to his head ????

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b.a.d.lego
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@freethegeekman it’s a good

mix of frustrating and rewarding, i’d Recommend if you have a few hours spare lol I watched 3 films whilst playing around with this shot #LazySunday

 

yes Alan’s shots are great but let’s not let him get a big head even if it is deserved.

 

wish I could figure out how to post on forums properly and not post pictures upside down! 

 

 

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Four Bricks Tall
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Posted by: @b-a-d-lego

wish I could figure out how to post on forums properly and not post pictures upside down! 

You've probably changed the orientation for correct viewing on your phone but not actually edited it.

I sometimes rotate photos in my gallery app then when I load them into Snapseed, they display in their original orientation.

Gotta make the edit and write the file ????

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b.a.d.lego
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@fourbrickstall

????I understand the individual words but when it comes to techy things like that I’m lost. 

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Short and Plastic
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@b-a-d-lego

I think the suggestion is to open the rotated image in Snapseed or other editing app, make sure it looks correctly oriented, and then Save it - that will save the file faced the correct way.

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Four Bricks Tall
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@shortandplastic

Yup. If you take the photo upside down (and that's easy to do in mobile), and you don't actually rotate it in an editing app like Snapseed, it will be posted as it was taken.

It's not the forum doing that to your photos ????

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b.a.d.lego
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@fourbrickstall

I’m so tech naive it’s obvious. Especially if you saw my bts lighting! 

Ive not used snapseed. But will investigate. Wish I could re-post the BT’s post tbh. Never mind. 

 

 

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Short and Plastic
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Whoa.

Flat-out awesome image!!

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b.a.d.lego
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@shortandplastic

Thank you! Quite please with it. Might do a few other force ghosts and other members of the Scooby gang

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